Giuliani v. Paul II

Andrew Sullivan asks a good question:

Has anyone else noticed the bizarre spectacle of many Bush-backing blogs demonizing Ron Paul for not saying that we deserved 9/11, at the same time eulogizing a man who absolutely and explicitly said that we did deserve 9/11: Jerry Falwell.

Of course, without any cites to the offending blogs, that’s all it is: A good question. What it led me to do, though, was to google Falwell and Giuliani. What do you suppose I found, hmm?

This  in the same debate in which Giuiliani attacked Paul because Paul suggested our pre-9/11 middle east foreign policy contributed to 9/11:

The candidates were asked by moderator Brit Hume, of Fox News, not to spend time commenting on the death of Falwell, news of which arrived here via news alerts on cellphones and BlackBerrys and jolted the news media and politicians as they prepared for the debate. The 90-minute event was co-sponsored by Fox News and the South Carolina Republican Party.

“It was just terrible,” Brownback said of Falwell’s death during a tour of the debate hall on of the University of South Carolina campus. Moments later, Giuliani praised Falwell as a man who was “not afraid to speak his mind”and expressed sympathy for Falwell’s family. Huckabee called Falwell “a great man and a great influence for America and for Christ.”

In case anyone forgot, here’s what Falwell had to say about 9/11:

JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU’s got to take a lot of blame for this.


JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I’ll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this happen’.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we’re responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system.


That was not a slip of the tongue; Falwell maintained that position until the day he died. He was, as Giuliani said, “speaking his mind.” And in his mind, the cause of 9/11 is you, me, and every other freedom loving American. 

Yet Rudy – who just resorted to mischaracterizations and emotional pandering to shout down Paul’s critique of our middle east policies – can do nothing but praise Falwell.

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3 Comments on “Giuliani v. Paul II”

  1. Rob V. Says:

    Interesting point. I never noticed that it seems to be a contractdiction. I say seems, though, mind you.

    Ron Paul blamed U.S. foreign policy abroad in regards to muslim nations. Thus, judgement was acted out by those we supposedly oppressed. Falwell/Roberts blamed the moral failings of a large part of the U.S. population. Thus, judgement was carried out by God.

    Agree or disagree with either one, they are different.

  2. wheeler Says:

    sure, but giuliani attacked the entire idea that the our actions somehow contributed to the attacks. he didn’t make any distinctions, or leave room for any. his blanket reaction to paul indicated that for rudi any suggestion of contribution is the same as subscribing to some kind of rosi o’donnle conspiracy theory.

  3. ALmod Says:


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